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Hokieesith
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Yep. Every libertarian is a racist that likes to see black
People get beat up and killed by police. Brilliant. That second paragraph is a disaster.
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WaPo nails it. Have seen a lot of this playing out here, in fact.
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 11:36AM
I need some of the author's crack. **
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hoothat
09/20/2017 10:59PM
Please keep your fetishes to yourself
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HoozOnTop
09/20/2017 11:29PM
All manifestations of the fucking John Birch Society. **
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Seattle .Hoo
09/20/2017 10:56PM
You really think that? **
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hoothat
09/20/2017 11:03PM
JBS not entirely irrelevant, but I wouldn't tie it too close. **
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hoodeyo
09/21/2017 12:19AM
How clueless to equate Libertarians with the kkk racist redneck nazis
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PalmyraHoo
09/20/2017 5:36PM
That would have been more effective under Zamboni. Or ChickenandWaffles.
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 5:41PM
Your continued paranoia continues to be amusing ...
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PalmyraHoo
09/20/2017 5:49PM
Give it a rest, crapwater. You're not fooling anyone. **
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 5:53PM
Is there anyone you haven't called Capwater, Mountain Dew? **
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Hoodafan
09/20/2017 5:55PM
Maybe you missed this, but it's pretty damned obvious.
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 6:05PM
If you say so Mountain Dew. I guess I'm not fixated on hoo someone is on
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Hoodafan
09/20/2017 6:40PM
His conclusion is a straw man
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Beerman
09/20/2017 2:13PM
And isn't that really his underlying point? That and how
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111Balz
09/20/2017 2:16PM
That's not how I read it
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Beerman
09/20/2017 2:28PM
"Self-interest as a moral center"?
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HowieT3
09/20/2017 4:01PM
Does it? Why are self-interests a bad thing? Does not the grocer have
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 4:11PM
It's the essence of capitalism
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Beerman
09/20/2017 4:05PM
It's a very fine line. Nowadays it seems more and more never realize that,
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HowieT3
09/20/2017 4:16PM
You believe voting for D's absolves people of being selfish? **
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HokieDan95
09/20/2017 4:22PM
Absolutely. It is not selfish to want other people's money if you
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 4:36PM
The whole other peoples' money schtick is out of fashion if it ever was...
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Chuck Taylor
09/20/2017 5:18PM
Made his money off of the liberal use of other
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 6:15PM
Just one example of many and self admitted at that.........................
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Chuck Taylor
09/20/2017 8:10PM
OPM, in this case, is also known as "leverage".
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 9:09PM
You've done a lot of assuming and most of it has been wrong.
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Chuck Taylor
09/21/2017 08:49AM
This is what I'm talking about when I talk US budget.
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hoodeyo
09/21/2017 12:43AM
With debt and equity. Similar to every other company. **
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HoosGuy
09/20/2017 7:13PM
So borrowing money from
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 7:15PM
That was TIC. Although I'm sure it's hard to tell **
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HoosGuy
09/20/2017 8:52PM
Yeah, I figured your post was probably TIC. Chuck's original post...
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 9:02PM
Absolutely stunning for which people can be demonized....
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Generic
09/20/2017 8:11PM
Only when it's Trump. **
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Cold Hoober Hoo
09/20/2017 7:19PM
The guy in the White House took other people's money against
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 5:22PM
The funny thing about selfishness is that it is always the
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 4:13PM
Well done. **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 3:58PM
Distilled why this piece is garbage into basically 1 sentence... great job **
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CharlestonSC
09/20/2017 3:41PM
Bad oped imo, very incomplete on the history, like a lot we also see.
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hoodeyo
09/20/2017 1:47PM
Interesting definition of "nails it". Two libertarians became
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 12:34PM
Yeah I thought it was a dumb article. And I have a quibble with you!
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hoolstoptheheels
09/20/2017 1:37PM
WADR, I think you completely missed the point.
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 1:37PM
Wow
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hoothat
09/20/2017 10:48PM
I call myself a Libertarian, though there are many flavors of
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HoosWillWin
09/20/2017 4:29PM
I would've figured you at least got a couple "likes" from this. **
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psychobilly
09/20/2017 3:28PM
Yep. Every libertarian is a racist that likes to see black
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Hokieesith
09/20/2017 2:41PM
You have outdone even yourself. Wow, just wow. **
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Hoodafan
09/20/2017 2:30PM
100% of people who call themselves libertarians, are actually...
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Generic
09/20/2017 2:08PM
No. But probably around 90% of them seem authoritarian when it comes to
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 4:26PM
I do disagree. But, not vehemently....
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Generic
09/20/2017 6:38PM
My lefty pals are bad with math. Shoot if HRC had just said a QUARTER of
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southdenverhoo
09/21/2017 10:24AM
OK, fine then.
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 6:54PM
I'm really confused...
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Generic
09/20/2017 7:14PM
It's not the best wording, but let me give you an example:
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 7:29PM
It is hardly authoritarian to want to know who is entering
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 4:42PM
One thing I think libertarians, conservatives, and Trumpsters agree on is
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hoodeyo
09/21/2017 12:27AM
Can see some of that with the Trumpster types, but I don't think
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hoodeyo
09/20/2017 4:35PM
Maybe I don't understand what a Libertarian is, but to me, it
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HoosWillWin
09/20/2017 4:33PM
The definition changes on what stereotypical point someone is making. **
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Cold Hoober Hoo
09/20/2017 5:11PM
And racist. This article could have been written with just
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Hokieesith
09/20/2017 3:25PM
And a sign he should probably change his experiences. Or at least
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Hoodafan
09/20/2017 2:34PM
Hmm. I did not get that message from the article.
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hoolstoptheheels
09/20/2017 2:00PM
OK. I agree that alt-righters who call themselves libertarians,
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 1:54PM
The majority of "those people" who are in jail, are in jail for nonviolent
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CharlestonSC
09/20/2017 1:44PM
Absolutely. Legalizing drugs eliminates a great many of the
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 4:03PM
Yep
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Beerman
09/20/2017 2:21PM
Rand Paul is very vocal about it, as well as at least the later iterations
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hoodeyo
09/20/2017 1:51PM
Well said. **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:45PM
So many strawmen, so little time... **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:40PM
That is certainly not what i took from his column
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111Balz
09/20/2017 1:17PM
The "greater good" as defined by you. It couldn't possibly be that
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Hoodafan
09/20/2017 1:41PM
That "sounds" so noble.
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Chuck Taylor
09/20/2017 2:17PM
Certainly contrary to wanting to grow the size and scope of Gov't. Nothing
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Hoodafan
09/20/2017 2:26PM
Not at all contrary unless you define personal responsibility and..........
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Chuck Taylor
09/20/2017 4:38PM
Honestly you missed my points as well as the authors
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111Balz
09/20/2017 2:13PM
So much for protecting the right of the minority... **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 3:28PM
Again "greater good" and "weakening" as defined by you. I suspect
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Hoodafan
09/20/2017 2:21PM
Do you honestly not see a difference between those two viewpoints? Trying
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CharlestonSC
09/20/2017 1:24PM
Of course I do as does the author. I don't think some of you are
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111Balz
09/20/2017 2:10PM
He's saying the libertarianism is the gateway drug to the alt-right. **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 3:29PM
Of course he sees no difference. **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:27PM
Ah, the mythical "greater good". The justification for anything. It's
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:20PM
Ha the greater good by growth of govt
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TomKazanski
09/20/2017 1:32PM
If there's a "pipeline" between the two, it's the worst ever... **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:37PM
I guess that the alt right is the only game in town at present............
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Chuck Taylor
09/20/2017 11:53AM
The author is clueless. Libertarian philosophy is the polical
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 11:50AM
Libertarianism is anarchy for rich people.
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HowieT3
09/20/2017 1:07PM
"Anarchy for rich people" is a great line. **
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hoodeyo
09/20/2017 1:53PM
LOL! **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:15PM
Oh that's not true. Libertarians get a bad name.
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hoolstoptheheels
09/20/2017 1:14PM
Utopians have never gained much traction in this country.
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Chuck Taylor
09/20/2017 1:48PM
Sure they have. They're called Democrats and Republicans. Both are
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 5:31PM
And thank goodness for that! **
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hoolstoptheheels
09/20/2017 2:02PM
Good observation. Maybe Jefferson was the most utopian,
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hoodeyo
09/20/2017 1:56PM
On all those test folks post here, I score out as an authoritarian.
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HowieT3
09/20/2017 1:20PM
...Yep, that is authoritarian... **
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hoothat
09/20/2017 10:58PM
That's crazy talk! If a Libertarian were elected, it would be pure
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:18PM
He does not say otherwise. You should read and think about
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111Balz
09/20/2017 12:05PM
If you can make things go away by making them illegal why don't we just
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CharlestonSC
09/20/2017 12:24PM
Was that a response to me? Seems very off topic to
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111Balz
09/20/2017 12:27PM
People are (or should be) free to discriminate. The constitutionally
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:14PM
And this you example exactly what the author was talking about
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111Balz
09/20/2017 12:25PM
You still miss the distinction between private action and governmental
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:28PM
LOL, no sadly for you, I'm not missing that at all
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111Balz
09/20/2017 12:31PM
I understand perfectly well, the distinction between the actions
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:36PM
Watch you dig deeper and deeper holes is somewhat entertaining
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111Balz
09/20/2017 1:01PM
I've not avoided anything. Businesses are created by individuals
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:13PM
Digging deeper and deeper...... **
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111Balz
09/20/2017 1:19PM
Um...OK. **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:21PM
People are free to discriminate, but there is nothing
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Faz d. Hoo
09/20/2017 12:25PM
Do you sacrifice your rights when you start a business? **
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:30PM
Businesses are a separate entity from the individual and are licensed
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Faz d. Hoo
09/20/2017 12:39PM
But should they be? That's the question. If you are require to
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:43PM
So, if I'm a pharmacist and I'm the only place within a thousand miles who
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THECZAR
09/20/2017 1:03PM
Actually, I do...even though your example (particular in today's
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:26PM
It is hypothetical. But if I'm Amazon or whoever, in your world, I don't
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THECZAR
09/20/2017 1:33PM
Well, that's where that pesky "your rights end where mine begin" idea comes
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:38PM
Absolutely. Businesses ultimately serve the public good.
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Faz d. Hoo
09/20/2017 12:52PM
Do they serve the "public good" or the business owner good and the customer
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:03PM
That's up to the government to determine
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Faz d. Hoo
09/20/2017 1:16PM
It need not be about punishing the offender via social media.
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:30PM
Which is only useful where reasonable alternatives exist
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Faz d. Hoo
09/20/2017 1:40PM
I disagree...particularly in today's ever-connected world. The best
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 1:44PM
Disagree all you want but that's what's happened
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Faz d. Hoo
09/20/2017 1:47PM
LOL, checkmate. **
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 12:22PM
While I'll be the first to admit that Libertarians are not the most
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 12:46PM
The right to free association has nothing to do with anti-discrimination
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 2:10PM
I'm using "free association in a very broad sense... as in a business owner
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BocaHoo91
09/20/2017 2:42PM
I don't think such an approach could have worked 50 years ago, but
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 3:57PM
Self awareness is not one of his strengths **
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111Balz
09/20/2017 12:28PM
LOL, indeed. From the 2016 Libertarian party platform:
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:24PM
Yet he's got you and others dead to rights. Perhaps his larger point is
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WahooRQ
09/20/2017 12:00PM
You sit here all day every day foaming at the mouth
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TomKazanski
09/20/2017 1:43PM
Nope. He's anecdotally picking examples of people who
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Hokie5150
09/20/2017 12:11PM
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